FIRST PRIMARY CARE: Deep Dive Podcast

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Beyond being a solid entrant to the DPC (direct primary care space) market, First Primary Care founder, Dr. Geetinder Goyal, and his team are on their way to forming a physician led insurance company that solves for healthcare industry’s terminal illness, the mega-carriers.

“Deep Dive″ or uncut version of our video podcast. Drs Jeff Brown and Jeff Cole interview Dr. Goyal, Founder of First Primary Care.

First Primary Care (FPC) grew both its membership and its revenue by more than 100% between 2023 and 2024. The vast majority of the 6000 members have onboarded through self-funded employer plans. These plans are comprised of a vertical stack of solutions designed to optimally benefit the patient, the employer, and the physician care team.

While many direct primary care (DPC) businesses are emerging, we are not aware of another DPC company has built a full stack health plan that includes a strong primary care base with integrated partners for cash pay specialists and services, a pharmacy benefit manager, TPAs (third party administrators), PPO network access, stop-loss insurance and distribution through brokers who are becoming more of a benefit advisor.

With a focus on price transparency, healthcare can become more stream-lined, and value can be measured. The incentives of the FPC physicians are aligned with that of the patient, health and prevention. The original role of insurance is restored to cover catastrophic issues, and not day-to-day needs.

Consistent results show a savings of $200K – $300K for a company with 100 employees. First Primary Care accomplishes this with a tiered service line beginning with a solid foundation of primary care. This base layer represents 65% of care and is free to the patient, without copays or other expenses. Generic prescriptions are free. The second level, 25% of care, is Guided Healthcare and demonstrates price transparency and cash pay by the plan for specialists, imaging, outpatient surgery and more. The final 10% is “Guided to Network” care for hospitalizations, ER visits, or catastrophic events.

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Timestamps:

03:40 –A STRONG FOUNDATION

06:30 – PRICE TRANSPARENCY

06:45 – TIERED APPROACH

07:28 – SELF-FUNDED EMPLOYERS

08:35 – THE ORIGINAL ROLE OF INSURANCE

11:25 – COST SAVINGS TO EMPLOYERS

15:20 – COST VS VALUE

16:05 – 65% BASE LAYER OF FREE HEALTHCARE

17:45 – GUIDED HEALTHCARE

19:30 – GUIDED TO NETWORK

21:05 – PLAN ADMINISTRATION

24:20 – EMPLOYER’S RISK

26:55 – STOP-LOSS CLAIM FUND SURPLUS

29:55 – WHY NOT REDESIGN INSURANCE?

34:30 – STARTING A PHYSICIAN LED INSURANCE COMPANY

40:50 – THE CHANGING ROLE OF BROKERS

47:18 – TPA (THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR) AS PARTNER

48:55 – PHARMACY SERVICES

54:30 – TEAM

57:25 – RPM (Remote Patient Monitoring)

59:45 – WHO IS YOUR CUSTOMER?

102:15 – GROWTH / NATIONAL FOOTPRINT

103:50 – THE BIG INSURERS: ARE THEY TOO BIG TO FAIL?

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